Talk:Nyota Uhura

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Interracial kiss[edit]

I can't make sense of the sentence:

"The episode is popularly cited as the first example of a scripted inter-racial kiss on United States television, only second to English being the first in the world."

What's trying to be said? In particular by the "only second to English being the first in the world."

Apepper (talk) 19:08, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

  • I believe they're trying to say that the first scripted interracial kiss was on a British hospital drama (forget the name). I think that kiss was in 1964. There used to be a link to the article for that TV program, but this article has been so messed with it has been lost. Sir Rhosis (talk) 20:49, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

On the contrary! The first interracial kiss on Star Trek was actually between Uhura and Nurse Christine Chapel on the Enterprise bridge during the episode "What Are Little Girls Madew of?" (still frame shot) 71.215.67.106 (talk) 00:19, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

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Nyota[edit]

In appearances at Star Trek conventions, Nichols indicated the character is "Nyota [U]penda Uhura";[1] and, in her 1996 novel, Saturn's Child, she named the mother of the titular character "Nyota".

  1. ^ Shoreleave 29, June 14, 2007, during Nichols Q and A session

If you want to include this claim, you'll need to cite a reliable source. The first part should be easily verifiable too. It never makes sense to start a revert war over an unsourced claim. czar 16:04, 3 June 2016 (UTC)

I'm fine with removing the reference completely. I would also request that the page be put under protection to prevent unregistered users with multiple IPs making any further changes. SonOfThornhill (talk) 16:08, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
I'll protect the page if there is vandalism, but both parties in an edit war are equally complicit. Wikipedia:IPs are human too, etc. czar 16:14, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
I though using multiple IPs was a violation. SonOfThornhill (talk) 19:28, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
Some people have dynamic IPs that change, but if an editor IP-hops maliciously, yes, that's a violation. I'd contact the admin attached to such an IP editor's long-term abuse or sockpuppet investigation in those cases. czar 19:43, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
By my count this person has used over 10 different IP addresses, 3 just in the last 24 hours. Combined with their refusal to discuss this issue on the Talk page when requested and rather childish responses such as "You're so fucking stupid." should make protecting this page a no brainer. SonOfThornhill (talk) 19:59, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
In any event, blocking isn't punitive. I'll take action if malicious editing continues, but I imagine the issue is likelier to die on this talk page czar 20:33, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
Of course blocking isn't punitive. But that is the problem with an unregistered user with multiple IP addresses. They can violate any rule or guideline and then just change IP addresses. It's double standard that penalizes registered editors only. At least by protecting the page, it will send a message to an IP user that their behavior is not acceptable. SonOfThornhill (talk) 20:43, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
  • Although the use of words like "stupid" are uncalled for, I agree that the article does not need guesswork/supposition such as "perhaps coincidentally." Either find out and state that it was a definite coincidence, or delete this bit as the unregistered user did. Sir Rhosis (talk) 01:22, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
I'm fine with removing the reference completely. Whether Nichols named the character purposely or coincidentally is unknown unless a definitive source can be found. My real concern is the behavior of the unregistered user who did multiple reverts using multiple IP addresses, refused to discuss the issue here on the Talk page and engaged in childish responses and insults. This kind of behavior should be discouraged. Yet none of the unregistered users recent IP addresses have been blocked and the page itself is still unprotected. It as if someone is going out of their way to protect this is unregistered user rather than Wikipedia. SonOfThornhill (talk) 14:09, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
The RFPP request was unnecessary and punitive—there have been no disruptive edits since I started this thread. czar 21:40, 4 June 2016 (UTC)

What was wrong with "Zulu"?[edit]

We read in the article:

Gene Roddenberry had intended his new female communications officer to be called "Lieutenant Sulu". Herb Solow pointed out how similar this was to "Zulu" and thought it might act against the plan for racial diversity in the show,

I do not understand why "Zulu" (or a similarity to this name) might act against the plan for racial diversity. Having a character whose very name evokes an association with Africa sounds ideal for this purpose. --Austrian (talk) 21:21, 16 August 2016 (UTC)

See the surname Sulu chosen to represent a pan-Asian crew member: Hikaru_Sulu#Development_and_portrayals. Originally played by nisei George Takei, the surname includes the letter L which can't be pronounced in Japanese. The concept of Cultural diversity goes through transformations that reflect the knowledge base of its proponents and their times - and the original "Star Trek" developers and early producers didn't have access to information as we do today (and tomorrow...?). -- Deborahjay (talk) 11:29, 20 January 2017 (UTC)

Sorry, I don't get it. What information are you talking about? The original Star Trek developers did know that "Zulu" is an African name, and that it would be perceived as an African name. Adding a woman with African ancestry makes the bridge crew more racially diverse; giving her an African name does so, too. Why would the name "Sulu" act against diversity, but not the name "Uhura"? --Austrian (talk) 12:27, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

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